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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, that was awesome. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: engtovo</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-754</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you are in a position to do mainstream music therapy thats perfect!  It&#039;s kind of like when a massage therapist gives people a little energy work with thier massage with or without them knowing about it :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you are in a position to do mainstream music therapy thats perfect!  It&#8217;s kind of like when a massage therapist gives people a little energy work with thier massage with or without them knowing about it <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to alot of this language and yet I am an old soul.I wish had woken earliar but hibernation has it&#039;s benifets.I love your passion(that&#039;s what I hear,not anger)I try to stay clear of the people who don&#039;t feel the whole range of emotions(correct me if I&#039;m wrong I thought each emotion had a frequency and  each were a natural occurence,can&#039;t have one without the other)I know we each effect the other; science(quantum physics )&amp; religeon are saying the same thing.So if I say for instance beome a strong magnet I will by the laws of science attract more particles of magnetic material to strenghthen my core.Spiritual laws I&#039;m told work the same way.Is there actually a seperation ?What I&#039;m learning lately there is no seperation,scarey yet I&#039;m open minded.No time space continuem,String Thoery(I learned about at a pow wow !)All I can say is things are getting strange or I just didn&#039;t realize it,which is most likely.Any help is better than no help .Some people are followers,some leaders.some don&#039;t have as much to offer.Some not as brave as others etc.I heard this once FEAR :F---, Everything And Run or Face Everything And Recover wouln&#039;t it be great to have Eden back.Alot of us are still scared  but you can bet were looking for an example,prefferably not a Hitler type.Some are looking for the miracle others will be the miracle.When the healer is healed the healer can heal the healy.Parodox wrapped in inigma.As you stated the answer is within but as I  learn more about the deeper meaning of Denial,Delusion and Dissociation as deffence mechanisms I see why people act and do the things they do and are affraid to find out about themselves.Also I know now about The Hundredth Monkey Effect(I think I was the last to know,but Im grateful to know)People will just know this stuff but not all of them(ever)Thank You for your example. Love Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to alot of this language and yet I am an old soul.I wish had woken earliar but hibernation has it&#8217;s benifets.I love your passion(that&#8217;s what I hear,not anger)I try to stay clear of the people who don&#8217;t feel the whole range of emotions(correct me if I&#8217;m wrong I thought each emotion had a frequency and  each were a natural occurence,can&#8217;t have one without the other)I know we each effect the other; science(quantum physics )&amp; religeon are saying the same thing.So if I say for instance beome a strong magnet I will by the laws of science attract more particles of magnetic material to strenghthen my core.Spiritual laws I&#8217;m told work the same way.Is there actually a seperation ?What I&#8217;m learning lately there is no seperation,scarey yet I&#8217;m open minded.No time space continuem,String Thoery(I learned about at a pow wow !)All I can say is things are getting strange or I just didn&#8217;t realize it,which is most likely.Any help is better than no help .Some people are followers,some leaders.some don&#8217;t have as much to offer.Some not as brave as others etc.I heard this once FEAR :F&#8212;, Everything And Run or Face Everything And Recover wouln&#8217;t it be great to have Eden back.Alot of us are still scared  but you can bet were looking for an example,prefferably not a Hitler type.Some are looking for the miracle others will be the miracle.When the healer is healed the healer can heal the healy.Parodox wrapped in inigma.As you stated the answer is within but as I  learn more about the deeper meaning of Denial,Delusion and Dissociation as deffence mechanisms I see why people act and do the things they do and are affraid to find out about themselves.Also I know now about The Hundredth Monkey Effect(I think I was the last to know,but Im grateful to know)People will just know this stuff but not all of them(ever)Thank You for your example. Love Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I used to do a lot of psychedellics, pot, mushrooms, acid, Salvia, but I can&#039;t say I regret it because it led me to energy work and shamanism. I am working to get a degree in music tharipy so there is a likelyhood of sepperating shamanic sound healings from a mainstream music tharipy practice. But I still plan to further the scientific evidence  of the benefits of vibrational healing so that it becomes more accepted as a complimentary medicin. I am not really looking to raise someone&#039;s vibration with the sound healing, but rather let it benefit them in what ever way it can, like helping them to reach their full potential. Taken from this point of view it is my goal to administer sound healings for people who may not believe there is any spiritual connection at all, and that is where the line of charging for the time and such get&#039;s blurd for me. It feels ok that I would make my living devoting my time to helping people in this way, and believe me I know that money can corrupt, but I&#039;ve all ready investigated other sound healers practices and they are doing things I would most certinly never do. I would do the healing, and that&#039;s it. I would charge for the time and tools, but not for information, or the healing itself. These other people are offering books on the subject, dooing teliclasses, I don&#039;t know, it&#039;s all pretty crazy from my point of view anyway. But like I said I mite be able to have a mainstream music tharipy practice and then provide free sound healing sessions for those who need it. I am working to raise my vibration, and yes, that does require going with in, and yes, the best way to encourage other people to develop is to be an example. Who are we to preach our point of view. Everyone has grown up and evolved with their own conditioning, and the same beliefs and points of view won&#039;t resonate with everyone. You articulated my point exactly with your comment on indiginous cultures, and so I thank you for that. Sorry if my spelling is less than steler, I am visually impaired and so I don&#039;t see words spelled out all the time, plus I have a condition called synisthesia where I see sounds and so I think this may play a role in why I tend to spell phoneticly. K, I&#039;ve been rambling, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I used to do a lot of psychedellics, pot, mushrooms, acid, Salvia, but I can&#8217;t say I regret it because it led me to energy work and shamanism. I am working to get a degree in music tharipy so there is a likelyhood of sepperating shamanic sound healings from a mainstream music tharipy practice. But I still plan to further the scientific evidence  of the benefits of vibrational healing so that it becomes more accepted as a complimentary medicin. I am not really looking to raise someone&#8217;s vibration with the sound healing, but rather let it benefit them in what ever way it can, like helping them to reach their full potential. Taken from this point of view it is my goal to administer sound healings for people who may not believe there is any spiritual connection at all, and that is where the line of charging for the time and such get&#8217;s blurd for me. It feels ok that I would make my living devoting my time to helping people in this way, and believe me I know that money can corrupt, but I&#8217;ve all ready investigated other sound healers practices and they are doing things I would most certinly never do. I would do the healing, and that&#8217;s it. I would charge for the time and tools, but not for information, or the healing itself. These other people are offering books on the subject, dooing teliclasses, I don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s all pretty crazy from my point of view anyway. But like I said I mite be able to have a mainstream music tharipy practice and then provide free sound healing sessions for those who need it. I am working to raise my vibration, and yes, that does require going with in, and yes, the best way to encourage other people to develop is to be an example. Who are we to preach our point of view. Everyone has grown up and evolved with their own conditioning, and the same beliefs and points of view won&#8217;t resonate with everyone. You articulated my point exactly with your comment on indiginous cultures, and so I thank you for that. Sorry if my spelling is less than steler, I am visually impaired and so I don&#8217;t see words spelled out all the time, plus I have a condition called synisthesia where I see sounds and so I think this may play a role in why I tend to spell phoneticly. K, I&#8217;ve been rambling, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: engtovo</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>engtovo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg

In my experience pot users are often sensitives who have trouble dealing with their gifts and the negative crap going on in the world in general.  Once upon a time I was a major pothead :-) It was a loooooong time ago and there are still days when it&#039;s easy to understand the desire to escape!

The money thing is something you learn over time if you are paying attention that is.  I charged for healing at the beginning, it didn&#039;t feel right as time went by and then I started to watch as great people I loved and respected lost their spirituality and became corrupted by the money or in some cases a type of fame.  It was sad and such a waste of really gifted people.  As for the indigenous cultures most of them had an interdependent culture where everyone simply had a role to play and those roles were discovered in childhood whether it was a hunter or a healer and the hunter provided food for the healer and his family and the healer worked on the whole community.  Everyone took care of everyone and there was little room for corruption like there is in this society.  Certainly no one would have looked at the situation as having to pay the healer, and no one sick was ever left without care.

Spirit certainly understand we are stuck in this screwed up money controlled world and it&#039;s not like you are going to get in some big karma automatically for charging for something, but trying to maintain spiritual integrity in this world is the hardest thing I have ever experienced and those I respect would say the same for themselves.  Bringing money into the spiritual mix makes it a thousand times harder, and will absolutely bring about money LESSONS which suck beyond words.  Much better to find a way to support yourself separate from spirit so that spiritual growth is not limited or corrupted by the demands that money brings into the process.  

If the goal is really to raise your vibration which is the best goal, then working on other people won&#039;t help you and may or may not help them, depending on what you are working on within yourself at the time.  The desire to help others is a worthy desire, the reality is though there is little we can really do to help others spiritually other than to be an example to the best of our ability in any given moment.  There would be more vibration raising going on with less teacher, preacher, healer and more just going within.

It really is too bad that there is not a type of monastery where serious seekers could spend time on the journey that was connected to no religion that would allow a person to step out of society and work and money crap for a year or two or five depending on how long the person felt the need to be dedicated strictly to spiritual growth.  Not sure if a place did exist how you would weed out the serious from those just wanting a free place to live though LOL  but it&#039;s a nice idea.  Once upon a time the world was such that we had far more options than in this time.  We have to work harder and be dedicated to accomplish our desires because of this world&#039;s chaos but it is still worthwhile.

Engtovo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg</p>
<p>In my experience pot users are often sensitives who have trouble dealing with their gifts and the negative crap going on in the world in general.  Once upon a time I was a major pothead <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was a loooooong time ago and there are still days when it&#8217;s easy to understand the desire to escape!</p>
<p>The money thing is something you learn over time if you are paying attention that is.  I charged for healing at the beginning, it didn&#8217;t feel right as time went by and then I started to watch as great people I loved and respected lost their spirituality and became corrupted by the money or in some cases a type of fame.  It was sad and such a waste of really gifted people.  As for the indigenous cultures most of them had an interdependent culture where everyone simply had a role to play and those roles were discovered in childhood whether it was a hunter or a healer and the hunter provided food for the healer and his family and the healer worked on the whole community.  Everyone took care of everyone and there was little room for corruption like there is in this society.  Certainly no one would have looked at the situation as having to pay the healer, and no one sick was ever left without care.</p>
<p>Spirit certainly understand we are stuck in this screwed up money controlled world and it&#8217;s not like you are going to get in some big karma automatically for charging for something, but trying to maintain spiritual integrity in this world is the hardest thing I have ever experienced and those I respect would say the same for themselves.  Bringing money into the spiritual mix makes it a thousand times harder, and will absolutely bring about money LESSONS which suck beyond words.  Much better to find a way to support yourself separate from spirit so that spiritual growth is not limited or corrupted by the demands that money brings into the process.  </p>
<p>If the goal is really to raise your vibration which is the best goal, then working on other people won&#8217;t help you and may or may not help them, depending on what you are working on within yourself at the time.  The desire to help others is a worthy desire, the reality is though there is little we can really do to help others spiritually other than to be an example to the best of our ability in any given moment.  There would be more vibration raising going on with less teacher, preacher, healer and more just going within.</p>
<p>It really is too bad that there is not a type of monastery where serious seekers could spend time on the journey that was connected to no religion that would allow a person to step out of society and work and money crap for a year or two or five depending on how long the person felt the need to be dedicated strictly to spiritual growth.  Not sure if a place did exist how you would weed out the serious from those just wanting a free place to live though LOL  but it&#8217;s a nice idea.  Once upon a time the world was such that we had far more options than in this time.  We have to work harder and be dedicated to accomplish our desires because of this world&#8217;s chaos but it is still worthwhile.</p>
<p>Engtovo</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to tell you how much I liked the piece you wrote. Sometimes meditation and energy work can become cumbersome because I feel that I am the only one in my vasinity who is actually doing anything to raise the vibration. What makes it worse is I&#039;ve got friends who are lightworkers and who know their perpous but their dependence on Cannabis keeps them down. I used to have a pretty bad drug problem but was able to free myself from it, and wish my friends would do the same. I have a friend who has an inate ability to see auras, but he spends his time fucked on pot, and is constantly being drawn in to the dark shadows of deception with these rediculous fake revelations. As for getting paid for something spiritual, like a healing or something to that affect, I do not believe it is wrong to make a living helping other people improve their quality of life. What you can do is charge for the time spent administering the session and the cost of more tools (I am to be a practitioner of vibrational tharipy and so I use antique Himalayan singing bowls and other shamanic instruments). You just need to be drivin by the cause to help other people broaden their scope of perception, in turn raising vibration. Spirit understands the times we live in, and understands that if we are to reach our potential and fulfill our perpous, we will need money to help get us their, since these are just the times we liven right now. Spirit does not want us to be cold, hungry, and destitute, so I have no problem charging for the time and cost of more bowls, drums, gongs, what have you. In indiginous cultures shamans could get buy with not charging for healings because they weren&#039;t so money oriented, and they lived closer to nature. Now because we have been born in to a culture that is ruled by the dollar, it is our job to charge head on in to the darkness, using that dollar as a means to infoltrate their operation and shine the light. The light can only truly shine when we uncover the darkness in ourselves and heal it. We need to get to as many people as we can, so there are people who will need to be doing spiritually oriented work full time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to tell you how much I liked the piece you wrote. Sometimes meditation and energy work can become cumbersome because I feel that I am the only one in my vasinity who is actually doing anything to raise the vibration. What makes it worse is I&#8217;ve got friends who are lightworkers and who know their perpous but their dependence on Cannabis keeps them down. I used to have a pretty bad drug problem but was able to free myself from it, and wish my friends would do the same. I have a friend who has an inate ability to see auras, but he spends his time fucked on pot, and is constantly being drawn in to the dark shadows of deception with these rediculous fake revelations. As for getting paid for something spiritual, like a healing or something to that affect, I do not believe it is wrong to make a living helping other people improve their quality of life. What you can do is charge for the time spent administering the session and the cost of more tools (I am to be a practitioner of vibrational tharipy and so I use antique Himalayan singing bowls and other shamanic instruments). You just need to be drivin by the cause to help other people broaden their scope of perception, in turn raising vibration. Spirit understands the times we live in, and understands that if we are to reach our potential and fulfill our perpous, we will need money to help get us their, since these are just the times we liven right now. Spirit does not want us to be cold, hungry, and destitute, so I have no problem charging for the time and cost of more bowls, drums, gongs, what have you. In indiginous cultures shamans could get buy with not charging for healings because they weren&#8217;t so money oriented, and they lived closer to nature. Now because we have been born in to a culture that is ruled by the dollar, it is our job to charge head on in to the darkness, using that dollar as a means to infoltrate their operation and shine the light. The light can only truly shine when we uncover the darkness in ourselves and heal it. We need to get to as many people as we can, so there are people who will need to be doing spiritually oriented work full time.</p>
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		<title>By: Frat. K</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Frat. K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent commentary. This should be posted on several blogs in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent commentary. This should be posted on several blogs in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Valentina</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>Valentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree SO much with everything you said. I was judged and criticised for not taking part in firing the grid because I simply felt that something was wrong with all that wishful thinking, and also because I think that people do this to have a clean consciousness when in their everyday life they are still poluting the earth or at least not making any effort to take REAL action to heal it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree SO much with everything you said. I was judged and criticised for not taking part in firing the grid because I simply felt that something was wrong with all that wishful thinking, and also because I think that people do this to have a clean consciousness when in their everyday life they are still poluting the earth or at least not making any effort to take REAL action to heal it.</p>
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		<title>By: yelena</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>yelena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the article does sound very angry...i am surprised actually...i do inner work only for 2 years, but it produced huge changes in consciousness and i can&#039;t imagine what would fire me up like that...i agree, changes do start from within, inner work, not wishfull thinking. However, i know that those of us who are on this path are aware that we can&#039;t push, drag or shame people into it...it comes from within and sustained from within...again, personally i don&#039;t get upset or angry anymore, but when i get homesick (i&#039;m not an earthling i think) in a big way, my only heaven is meditation. How many people meditate when they don&#039;t feel so good? And i mean among those who do practice...yeah, exactly...so we need not to be angry with or expecting from others who are really are ignorant and may be getting &quot;free ride&quot; as you say. We know not to have expectations of gratitude and be prepared to hear just the opposite; we just know better..why get angry then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the article does sound very angry&#8230;i am surprised actually&#8230;i do inner work only for 2 years, but it produced huge changes in consciousness and i can&#8217;t imagine what would fire me up like that&#8230;i agree, changes do start from within, inner work, not wishfull thinking. However, i know that those of us who are on this path are aware that we can&#8217;t push, drag or shame people into it&#8230;it comes from within and sustained from within&#8230;again, personally i don&#8217;t get upset or angry anymore, but when i get homesick (i&#8217;m not an earthling i think) in a big way, my only heaven is meditation. How many people meditate when they don&#8217;t feel so good? And i mean among those who do practice&#8230;yeah, exactly&#8230;so we need not to be angry with or expecting from others who are really are ignorant and may be getting &#8220;free ride&#8221; as you say. We know not to have expectations of gratitude and be prepared to hear just the opposite; we just know better..why get angry then?</p>
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		<title>By: engtovo</title>
		<link>http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>engtovo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I am Engtovo and Diane.  Diane is my legal name, for now but I intend to change it to Engtovo.  I was Tatiacha for 11 years, before recently changing to Engtovo, no one calls me Diane except the bank lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I am Engtovo and Diane.  Diane is my legal name, for now but I intend to change it to Engtovo.  I was Tatiacha for 11 years, before recently changing to Engtovo, no one calls me Diane except the bank lol</p>
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