Comments on: Fire the Grid – Bohemian Grove Update

By: Mitch

Mitch — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:13:12 +0000

So, after all, it is number 9 they chose for the Dawn mission. See my comment from July 26, and Engtovo’s article, of course.

“09.27.07 Dawn had a beautiful ride to space on September 27 and is on its way to study a pair of asteroids. Launch was delayed one day from bad weather, and liftoff was delayed 14 minutes from a boat in the range safety zone. Following liftoff at 7:34 am EDT (4:34 a.m. PDT)”

By: Tim McGlenn

Tim McGlenn — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:38:04 +0000

Hello Engtovo

I was lead to your site and have read it all and it seems to resonate with my personal view. I live in the flathead valley in the center of the votexes. I beleave I am here for a reason. I was lead out in the woods durring the storm in july and it was very unusal. I am intersted in more information on the votexes and things going on the the flathead.

Thank You
Tim

By: !Twila

!Twila — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:06:22 +0000

Engtovo: Yup, but I maybe should have said we DO “clearly percieved” (by us that is) “Spiritual” work but it is not public or with groups of people, or openly visible in the world of form. We work underground/incognito so to speak. It is not important to me that anyone else know of my NDEs. I only tell people if they are in a situation (say have an upcoming death in the family, something like that) where the information might help with transition.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:46:05 +0000

You are welcome, Stefania.

By: stefania popescu

stefania popescu — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:19:12 +0000

Indeed, Mitch! I felt so from 2004 when I was first time forced to re-move! And it is also true that astrology no longer was a support for my evolution, for other may be, but not for me because I did astrology about 25 years now! Meantime I learned many-many other things. It is exactly what I feel. But this thing, to be in another place at the end of the year… Spirit made me to undestand I must go from here and fast enough to arrive in the other house in september or with 1 sept. a asked my pension. My friend who works at the House of pensions told me to wait for november, without any reason, but I know that I must did my dossier for 1 september and not later. I thought and I thought today and I understood clearly that Spirit want me in another location in max. 30 days, a month. I will begin at the new moon and I will end to the new moon in september. After taking this decision, I felt better than yesterday or some days ago. It seems that the circumstances created by Spirit cannot be solved in another way… So I will go and trust my heart. About my hearing, you are right, in my familly and at work I never liked what they were talking, just all kinds of fears and gossips, vanity and silly things, competition and all kinds of words whith which I hadn`t any resonance. They all wanted to dominate and control me and they didn`t succeeded. I have the destiny axis on Pisces-Virgo which implyes strange illness and it was strage to have tympanum sclerosys from my 36-37… My second husband was exactly as my mother, I couldn`t listen his tribulations about businesses and money, about sex and many other. I needed a deep clearing to get a hope one day I will meet someone really for me! I never perceive myself as a deft person, but for the public, that is! To encounter the right person, to fulfill in fact any dream someone could have, the person must have no money debts, because money debts enslave us and block our dreams fulfilling. But even when child and I knew nothing about the Spirit, I always followed my heart at any cost! And sometime it was a hard cost. Thank you, Mitch, be blessed,

Stefania

By: engtovo

engtovo — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:15:51 +0000

!Twila I agree I also know people who had NDE or are walk-ins who are just living a “normal” life and could care less really about a spirit path. You can have either experience but it is what you do after that determines who you are.

As far as the group thing, I too have been exposed to many who just like to join in because it is the thing everyone is doing, and they don’t meditate on their own before or after. I think there is little, to no benefit, from those group things. I really believe a small group of say 7-11 people, who have been meditating and working with energy for a long time, focused on a specific goal could create a greater effect than millions who are clueless and likely not focused on an intent at all, but just want to say they participated.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:47:50 +0000

To Stefania

Well then Stefania, it looks like you are not just been guided but actually been FORCED to abandon astrology, which has become detrimental for your spiritual grow.
And, a thought occurred to me, that your problem with hearing (being nearly deaf) maybe serves you as a metaphor for not LISTENING to the still small voice within for guidance, for too long?

But don’t listen to me. Go within. Seek, and you shall find it.

By: !Twila

!Twila — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:08:49 +0000

Engtovo: Thanks, re: “lightworker assemblies” reply. I agree that people such as yourself who “spontaneously” respond to energies are doing it the “correct” way.

What I was referring to was the people who join “groups” only because they like the idea of what is being presented. (Nothing “natural” happened to THEM personally to spark an internal feeling to “do” something).

In terms of “Fire the Grid” for example, most one of the people I know personally who intended to do the “meditation” are people who have no “habitual” meditation schedule! I think they liked the idea of “assisting”someone they believed was “in the know” (whom they believed to be more “Spiritual” because of her NDE story!).The “efficacy” of those groups is what I was referring to. I wonder at the benefit of that group activity.

One last thing for those who do not know. Having an NDE (I’ve had two), or even being a “Walk In”, does not automatically qualify a person as “more Spiritual” than anyone else. These events leave us with impacts of course, many of them very affirming, but it does not imply that we now are more “qualified” to tell people what THEY should do or think. And I would add that anything that creates “hype” and frenetic emotional excitement should be “suspect” in terms of joining in. Spirit brings our work to us, one does not have to go looking for it, or join groups. But that is just my opinion.

By: stefania popescu

stefania popescu — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:59:16 +0000

Thank you again, Mitch, for your understanding! After posting my first comment I read the discussions and I felt I was posting something too private on a public blog… I have no right to ask this kind of help. I asked for erasing because in this light it seems to me not to be appropriate. The discussion between Engtovo and Yelena made me sad. As an aquarius I have sometime a feeling of globally friendship and sharing some sort of help, but it is not really true for everyone, it will be, may be, in the future! I had a site where I put some of my ideas, but it didn`t work here. I ended it in may after 18 months. People here are somehow very limited and I was marginalized in astrology years ago just because of my ideas about planetary ascension and other things like these. In my country astrologers make people greatly depend on their previsions, which I didn`t, because I always wanted to make people free and not enslave them with astrological readings. So I was put out of the market in 2004: no collaborations, no papers, no magazines, neither tv nor radio, zero marketing. I am on the edge of a great change and even I am happy with myself, sometime I feel too alone. I wanted help people re-gain their own soul, their own force, but I learned that not everybody need or want to be free. I have a thought to do my own blog after solve my current problems. You know, it is about money but it is in fact more than money, it is about my creativity, my passion, about expressing my heart! Any way your comments helped me in a curious way…Someone who tell me something like you did could be a friend, even they are far away! If my comment doesn`t annoy, it can rests here. After reading Engtovo article about the grid, I was intrigued and finding myself on the edge of re-moving, I felt a need to ask her some details if this was possible, which I did. Thank you again, I will return to read interesting postings here, best wishes for you,

Stefania

By: Mitch

Mitch — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:27:19 +0000

Before your wish will come true Stefania, I would like to ask you a question. In order to solve your problem with having no clientele, have you ever tried to utilize the Internet to offer your services? Just don’t know if this would be a viable solution in Romania.
Personally, I’m not very much into the astrology but sometimes I check one astrologer’s site. He offers generic weekly, monthly and yearly predictions for all visitors for free, and then paid services for those who request it.
According to him the tides for Aquariuses will turn for better in September. (September again)
I am an Aquarius too, so I’ll see how good he really is.

And, about second thoughts you have regarding your post. With exception for asking for personal guidance (I guess), there is nothing wrong with it. Perhaps this format here is not most suitable for this kind of communication. Unfortunately the available discussion forum http://www.spiritnexus.com/forums.htm has not yet been really utilized for that purpose.