A convention of Astrologers met in Denver and what they came out with does not bode well for the US elections this year. This article was on the front page of the Durango Herald. There are multiple aspects in the story that the family has been discussing for some time, like Bush doing something to prevent the elections from happening and this with the 911 dream I just had tells me it is time to pay very close attention.
The family has been talking for a couple of weeks about the possibility that Hillary really is the illuminati anointed one and that perhaps they intend to take out Obama to give her the nomination. Robert Kennedy was killed in June before the elections. Could they be planning the same type of thing? We have speculated about what kind of Manchurian candidate they would have to use on Barak to unite people behind Hillary instead of turn them against her. Certainly a far right religious racist would do the trick. We need to talk about these things loud and clear to make it known in advance that if this scenario comes to play out we will not buy into it!
Not that I like Obama or Hillary, they both work for the same masters as well as McCain. I have also wondered with the fervor that surrounds Obama, whether he is the “anti-christ” and maybe their plan would be to take out Hillary to guarantee Obama the presidency. Just as with the opposite scenario choosing the Manchurian candidate closely would be very important to getting the Hillary people go get behind Obama. Considering the factions and infighting within the illuminati we may be looking at two simultaneous scenarios one with a assassination of a candidate and another with a scenario that attempts to keep Bush in office.
What do you guys think? Any dreams or insights that would add puzzle pieces to this puzzle?
Astrologers share a sense of foreboding about election
Agree that a time of upheaval is coming; Saturn, Uranus opposed on Nov. 4
May 21, 2008
By Joe Hanel | Herald Denver Bureau
DENVER – Forget about Tuesday’s votes in Oregon and Kentucky. Barack Obama has won the Cosmic Primary and is destined to be the next president of the United States.
Seven leading astrologers consulted their charts and came to the unanimous conclusion, which they shared Tuesday at the United Astrology Conference in Denver.
Although the crowd of several hundred cheered at the forecast, the seven panelists shared a sense of foreboding.
“There are things that are going to happen in the next couple of months that could turn the game into something different than we think it is right now,” said Shelley Ackerman, a New York City astrologer who appears frequently on television and radio shows.
A time of upheaval is coming, they agreed. Election Day – Nov. 4 – will put Saturn in opposition to Uranus, meaning the two planets are aligned at opposite ends of the zodiac. Saturn symbolizes experience and the establishment. Uranus is the planet of change and youth. When they are opposed, the country sees a period of “revolutionary fervor,” said Raymond Merriman, the panel’s moderator. The last Saturn-Uranus opposition was from 1965-67, a time of drastic cultural change.
Other astrological events during the summer make the election unpredictable. Democrats will gather in Denver for their national convention in August – the same month as a solar eclipse and a partial lunar eclipse.
The events raise the possibility of President Bush somehow interfering with the election, said Robert Hand of Reston, Va.
In fact, most of the astrologers on the panel weren’t sure if the winner of the election would be the same person taking the oath of office on Inauguration Day. Some of them expressed concern about Obama’s personal safety.
“I’m hoping they really pump up the security around him. I’m just really concerned about that,” said Sandra Leigh-Serio of Boulder.
And the election gets even trickier for astrologers.
It’s the single most “screwed-up” election from an astrological perspective in decades, Hand said.
“We don’t have a single solid birth chart, so this is going to be very difficult,” Hand said.
Astrologers think Hillary Clinton was born at 8:02 a.m. Oct. 26, that John McCain was born at 9 a.m. Aug. 29 and that Obama was born at 7:11 p.m. Aug. 4. But those times might not be accurate, and if they’re not, then all bets are off with the candidates’ astrological charts, Hand said.
And most menacing of all, whoever wins might regret it. The charts don’t look good at all for Jan. 20, Inauguration Day.
“Whoever gets sworn in, it ain’t going to work too well,” Ackerman said.
interesting post! because the moon is so close to the earth it has alot of effects on us, especially the tide. the big question is how much does it effect us. when more then half our bodies are made from liquid.
the website atlann.com goes into more detail about moon cyclces and phases.
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I have been recently drawn to crop circles, sacred geometry, spiritualism and so forth.. I started saving pics back in Jan. of C.circles, Metatrons cube, angelic pictures, etc…a friend and I started talking about the Steorns Device and drawing sketches of it.. long story short, months later I noticed that what we were drawing things that tied into crop circles, and metatrons cube…I then started to find Divinci pictures, i.e. ‘Vetruvian Man’, and I was wowed with what I saw… my friend and I where drawing the same exact stuff… Times have been rough for me lately, and I found some symbolic, if not very prophetic, historical stuff…And the thing is, I asked for a sign from the all supreme positive energy or God if thats what you wanna call him…..Im talking 2012(Seal of Soloman/Metatrons Cube/Great Seal;Eagle/four astrological signs) type stuff that we havent seen on the Discovery Channel yet, and now my friends concur that I am not crazy(we all are in our own way) I’ve had older Gentlemen ask me “Who are you Josh”…and thats weird cause, I ask my self that everyday… Is someone trying to show me something? Is it my inner self trying to awake or am I just crazy, Ive listen to david wilcock, and others…. I believe in an higher inner self being, and I believe in a higher, most positive light entity or God…. Im a 9 year Vet, my friends have always told me we were supposed to meet.. anyway, Engtovo, can you elaborate your thoughts on what Im feeling?I feel this strong ying yang type force within me… I’d appreciate it, to be honest with you, I think you already know….
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I’m not sure exactly what it is you think you want to hear from me. Only you can know if you are awakening and what that means to you. I would not get into the whole 2012 thing there is too much to distract you if you are truly awakening what anything outside is saying is meaningless, just go within. People have spent years trying to unravel all the mysteries of symbolism and so forth and got so absorbed in it that they had no true spiritual growth. Learn the difference between intellectual curiosity and study and actual inner spiritual work, being able to make that distinction will serve you all your life. There is nothing wrong with solving the mysteries and following that intellect path as long as you know that is what you are doing and you enjoy it. The problem is that most who do that get confused into thinking what they are doing is a spiritual path and that when they find the next clue, the next artifact, or puzzle piece that it will raise their vibration which it doesn’t.